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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">For the record, as the conversation
      continued of the mailing list.<br>
      With the help of Al, I identified a bug on Centos system, due to
      bad canonification in technique (canonification is replacing non
      alphanumeric character by _, so that they can be used as class).<br>
      The Pull Request finally contains code that is correct on all
      tested system, and was merged and code will be inclluded in next
      release<br>
      <br>
      Thank you very much Al for your patience,<br>
      Nicolas<br>
      <br>
      Le 03/03/2016 19:31, Nicolas Charles a écrit :<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Al,<br>
        <br>
        You can use the fix that is there:<br>
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        <br>
        You need to download the file <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ncharles/rudder-techniques/bug_8033/typo_in_services_management/techniques/systemSettings/process/servicesManagement/3.0/servicesManagement.st">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ncharles/rudder-techniques/bug_8033/typo_in_services_management/techniques/systemSettings/process/servicesManagement/3.0/servicesManagement.st</a>
        and replace the file <i>/var/rudder/configuration-repository/techniques/systemSettings/process/servicesManagement/3.0/servicesManagement.st</i><br>
        Then, in the <i>/var/rudder/configuration-repository/techniques/systemSettings/process/servicesManagement/3.0</i>
        folder, execute<br>
            git add servicesManagement.st<br>
            git commit -m "Fixing service management reporting"<br>
        <br>
        And go to the Administration > Settings page, and click on
        "Update Technique now" right at the bottom of the page<br>
        <br>
        Sorry for the inconvenience :(<br>
        <br>
        Nicolas<br>
        <br>
        Le 03/03/2016 18:41, Al Joslin a écrit :<br>
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        I don’t have that system anymore, I’ve reverted 
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        <div class="">this time I’ll update the /opt/… file and then
          click the “update”</div>
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        <div class="">I just saw your note on the typo — I’ll wait for
          that </div>
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        <div class="">thanks!<br class="">
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                <div class="">On Mar 3, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Nicolas
                  Charles <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Al,<br class="">
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                      /opt/rudder/share is the source for techniques,
                      updated by the packages<br class="">
                      /var/rudder/configuration-repository is the git
                      repository, used by Rudder<br class="">
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                      When you update Rudder, only the /opt/rudder/share
                      is update, not the
                      /var/rudder/configuration-repository (except for
                      the system techniques). The rational is to avoid
                      deleting any change the user may have done in its
                      technique<br class="">
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                      If you have a red cross, then yuo have an issue -
                      and we must discover why.<br class="">
                      If you click on the red cross, it will tell you
                      there were an error during policy update, and if
                      you click on "Details", then "Show technical
                      details" you'll have more information<br class="">
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                      The text that will show in the technical display
                      should tell what is not correct<br class="">
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                      Nicolas<br class="">
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                      Le 03/03/2016 17:16, Al Joslin a écrit :<br
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                      not to worry, it’s all in a days work for ‘why is
                      everything so hard?’ man!
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                      <div class="">:)</div>
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                      <div class="">I pulled the raw from a different
                        place - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      <div class="">diff says they are identical — so it
                        must have been about how I installed it</div>
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                      <div class="">I had copied it into the two places
                        I found the original — in /opt/rudder/… and
                        /var/rudder/…  the /var/ copy was under git
                        control, so I added it and committed the change.</div>
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                      <div class="">what is the better way?  why are
                        there two locations, is one of them for DIST
                        originals?</div>
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                      <div class="">I don’t have a Policy Server tab,
                        but I find "Update Techniques now" at the bottom
                        of Admin->Settings — the blurb mentions the
                        /var/… location as it’s source...</div>
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                      <div class=""> I had a red x not a green check -
                        so generation was not successful</div>
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                      <div class="">Once you clarify where I should
                        place the file I will try again </div>
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                      <div class="">thanks!</div>
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                      <div class="">al;</div>
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                      <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>p.s.


                        I would a Networking->Port Management
                        technique — is one on the horizon?  Or should I
                        have a go at it?</div>
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                            <div class="">On Mar 3, 2016, at 3:50 AM,
                              Nicolas Charles <<a
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                                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello Al,<br
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                                  I'm sorry you had such a bad
                                  experience. <br class="">
                                  Did you copy the content of the file,
                                  or the html content of the page (it
                                  looks like a dumb question, but I've
                                  already wget in the past the pages,
                                  and got caught by html in my code:))<br
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                                  Raw version can be found here:<br
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                                  <br class="">
                                  And you were missing the last step of
                                  the technique update, which is (stated
                                  from doc):<br class="">
                                  "go to the <em class="">Rudder</em>
                                  web interface, to the Administration
                                  tab, Policy Server tab, and click on
                                  "Reload <em class="">Techniques</em>".
                                  It will reload the <em class="">Technique</em>
                                  library and trigger a full
                                  redeployment on nodes."<br class="">
                                  Otherwise, Rudder may not see that
                                  there is a change.<br class="">
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                                  However, I don't understand why
                                  compliance wheel was spinning. Was the
                                  generation successfully ? (Successful
                                  generation is a green tick on the top
                                  right hand side corner, failed on is a
                                  red cross)<br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  Nicolas<br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  Le 02/03/2016 23:30, Al Joslin a
                                  écrit :<br class="">
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                                  I’ve restored the serve to a prior
                                  snapshot
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                                  <div class="">I had to run rudder
                                    agent reinit to get the nodes to
                                    show up and be accepted again</div>
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                                  <div class="">I am back to where I was
                                    before the wind blew </div>
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                                  <div class="">Awaiting suggestions</div>
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                                  <div class="">Al;</div>
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                                        <div class="">On Mar 2, 2016, at
                                          12:23 PM, Al Joslin <<a
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                                            <div class="">I threw
                                              caution to the wind and
                                              installed the revised <a
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                                            <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">       </span>I
                                              copied it from:</div>
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                                            <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">       </span>Into:</div>
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                                            <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">               </span>/var/rudder/configuration-repository/techniques/systemSettings/process/servicesManagement/3.0/<a
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                                                href="http://servicesmanagement.st/"
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                                            <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">       </span>(committing



                                              the change to git [from
                                              within the 3.0 folder] in
                                              the latter case)</div>
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                                            <div class="">Rudder didn’t
                                              see that as a change so
                                              nothing was applied</div>
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                                            </div>
                                            <div class="">The only way I
                                              know how to cause the
                                              rules to be applied is to
                                              change something, so I
                                              modified the
                                              lessThan&greaterThan
                                              instance values in the
                                              existing
                                              servicesManagement
                                              directive instance</div>
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                                            </div>
                                            <div class="">The rules were
                                              then applied but the error
                                              was still there, so I
                                              figured that I would have
                                              to rebuild the directive
                                              to pick up the changes</div>
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                                            </div>
                                            <div class="">So I deleted
                                              and rebuilt my directive
                                              instance, which caused the
                                              Rules to be applied as
                                              soon as the deletion was
                                              applied</div>
                                            <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">       </span>-
                                              I guess I should have
                                              disabled them to make
                                              changes?</div>
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                                            </div>
                                            <div class="">Then I
                                              re-added the new instance
                                              of the serviceManagement
                                              directive to the rules -
                                              in their settings panes</div>
                                            <div class=""><br class="">
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="">But the
                                              [updated] directive (with
                                              the same name as the old
                                              one) wouldn't show up in
                                              the compliance view, even
                                              when I deleted all teh
                                              directives, saved and then
                                              re-added and saved…</div>
                                            <div class=""><br class="">
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="">So I rebuilt
                                              the Rule (again with the
                                              same name as the old one)
                                              — and then none of the
                                              directives would show up
                                              in compliance - even after
                                              5mins of the wheel
                                              spinning around</div>
                                            <div class=""><br class="">
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="">So I restarted
                                              rudder - no effect: the
                                              compliance wheel is still
                                              spinning on the rebuilt
                                              rule and no directives are
                                              showing up in the lists
                                              below</div>
                                            <div class=""><br class="">
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="">So I rebooted
                                              the rudder machine - no
                                              effect: the compliance
                                              wheel is still spinning on
                                              the rebuilt rule and no
                                              directives are showing up
                                              in the lists below</div>
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                                            <div class="">OK, so I’m
                                              kinda wishing I’d waited
                                              for the release…</div>
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                                            </div>
                                            <div class="">Suggestions?
                                               Options?</div>
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                                            <div class="">thanks</div>
                                            <div class="">al;</div>
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                                                  2016, at 11:04 AM,
                                                  Nicolas Charles <<a
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                                                      - it seems a lot
                                                      like this issue,
                                                      that has been
                                                      solved last week :
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                                                      Basically, here,
                                                      you are missing
                                                      some reports on
                                                      the Technique,
                                                      hence the errors
                                                      in reports.<br
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                                                      You can either
                                                      wait for the
                                                      release, upgrade
                                                      Rudder (and don't
                                                      forget to upgrade
                                                      your techniques :
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                                                      ), or apply the
                                                      fix directly on
                                                      your technique<br
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                                                      Nicolas<br
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                                                      Le 02/03/2016
                                                      16:55, Al Joslin a
                                                      écrit :<br
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                                                        not much - it’s
                                                        claiming failure
                                                        on the service
                                                        starting
                                                        parameters —
                                                        which could only
                                                        be a little more
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                                                          Nicolas
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                                                          Al,<br
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                                                          I've looked at
                                                          the log, and
                                                          they indeed
                                                          don't exhibit
                                                          errors. But
                                                          from what I
                                                          understand on
                                                          your
                                                          screenshot,
                                                          you have only
                                                          a couple of
                                                          percent of
                                                          unknow reports
                                                          - so the error
                                                          may lies
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                                                          On the
                                                          Configuration
                                                          Policy /  Rule
                                                          page, you'll
                                                          have the list
                                                          of rules +
                                                          their
                                                          compliance. If
                                                          you click on
                                                          it, you'll see
                                                          the detail by
                                                          Directive and
                                                          by Node, and
                                                          you can drill
                                                          down to
                                                          pinpoint where
                                                          the error is.<br
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                                                          Does it help?<br
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                                                          Le 29/02/2016
                                                          16:01, Al
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        I must be missing something here….

        I’ve constructed a Rudder rule to install the Zabbix-Agent — everything works ok until it gets to the part where I ask it to ensure that the service is running and will restart on boot

        The log on the target machine shows no errors and yet the dashboard says 100% failure…  

What is going on?

Al;

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